Kevin and Joe talk with Owen Marcus about why so many men can succeed at work while quietly struggling at home. They explore how stress, trauma, and old conditioning live in the body… and why most men can’t think their way out of what they’re carrying. This is a conversation about somatic awareness, relationships, emotional safety, and the kind of honest male connection that can change — and even save — lives.
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Why Men Can’t Think Their Way Out of Pain
Kevin and Joe interview MELD founder, Owen Marcus
Apr 14, 2026
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